First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi is widely quoted as having said the above, one of his many addresses to the Indian public during the non violent freedom fight of India against the British.

There are many quotable quotes of Mahatma Gandhi. Some of them are extremely profound, both materially and spiritually. What ever he said, he said it so many times and in so many places repeatedly, it lost relevance to remember when and where of his quotes. Albert Einstein described him as the greatest man who ever walked on earth.

Click on the image of Gandhi for a web page with more information about him.

Some friends have read these pages, astonished at so much incendiary information in one place -- so well-presented, and suggested quite seriously that I should be worried for my life!

I have been authoring incendiary and revolutionary data on my web sites for more than 5 years, and in public lectures more than 20 years. I am STILL in the status of being "ignored" on health matters. The IRS saw fit to attack me, but lost in court, so they now ignore me. Perhaps this famous quote from Gandhi should be revised to say that, "after the attack you WIN because they again ignore you. You may then go through this cycle again and again before the final win."

I befriended Jimmy Keller who was curing cancer. He was finally attacked and lost -- spending years in jail. He told me, several times, that the public liaison position I held on his behalf had cost every one of my predecessors to be attacked and go to jail before they gave up, lost. I was never attacked.

The few attacks I get are encouraging, but they tend to be so trivial that I can't count them as a measure of my success with bringing truth to the health care system.

Pain Killer Drugs now sell in the many billions of dollars

They all have mediocre records for success at preventing pain

They have a largely hidden record of causing death and harm

There are very cheap, very safe alternatives

Wouldn't you think, if I were right about these matters, that either more people would listen and try, or that I would be attacked as a charlatan?

Sorry! No! No matter how wonderful you might think this information is, the "powers" in the drug industry count their profits in billions of dollars. Their patients number in the millions. I am so small that I don't rise up out of the sea of many others who expose the lies and evil of the drug industry.

Find out where I went wrong -- disagree with me?? It will bring me up on that scale! If I am wrong? I lose! If my disagreement results in my proving to be right, and you realize that, we both win!

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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win."